Is UA ripping us off? - one SHARC21369 costs 30 USD..

[cgar]

. . . . . . DSP maybe be more efficient but that does not change the fact this this is all friggn' ones and zeros folks!

Well, if that's your argument, then just sell your pc and use a commodore 64 and a hex editor to MANUALLY edit your own effects, after all, it's just ones and zeros . . . . .

Dude - you're a fool! UAD-1 and UAD-2 are a tool -nothing more. Sure, you could get the same 'work' done without the tool (given unlimited time), or even better with a 'different' tool if it existed - but it doesn't - so unless you can demonstrate a better way - SHUT UP! Even if you 'were' smart enough to write you own 'uad-clone' native plugs, by the time you finished, uad-3 would be out . . .

I didn't insult anyone here. If you're insist on being a douche, that's fine be one. Making a analogy with a commodore 64 really show's how enlightened your are. Good luck with all that brilliance.

[creaturestudios]

But I'm sick of people postulating that somehow identical results (i.e. sound) could not be achieved natively

I didn't state that in any part of my post, in fact if you actually read the post you will notice that I sang the praises of particular native plug ins
Also what do you mean by 'somehow' identical? I haven't yet come across native plug ins as good as the UAD ones but alot of them are 'somehow' identical

unless they choose to

Your telling me so that if say 1 instance of a Waves API 560 ate up 15% of your new quad core cpu u wouldn't mind? You would be straight on their forums wasting your time and energy bitching about how much of your cpu their demanding instead of putting it into making music. If your unhappy with it then sell it, its not all ones and zeros and not everyone has a quad core based pc/mac.

[oldoak2000]

I didn't insult anyone here. If you're insist on being a douche, that's fine be one. Making a analogy with a commodore 64 really show's how enlightened your are. Good luck with all that brilliance.

Yeah, your right - I shouldn't be so harsh - I'm just sick and tired of reading all these 'I want it all for free' posts that pollute the forum and criticize products WITHOUT offering a CURRENTLY WORKING AND EXISTING ALTERNATIVE. Dreams and Ideas are a dime a dozen; show me something that works and is a better deal - everything else is just noise . . . . . . .

[cgar]

I didn't insult anyone here. If you're insist on being a douche, that's fine be one. Making a analogy with a commodore 64 really show's how enlightened your are. Good luck with all that brilliance.

Yeah, your right - I shouldn't be so harsh - I'm just sick and tired of reading all these 'I want it all for free' posts that pollute the forum and criticize products WITHOUT offering a CURRENTLY WORKING AND EXISTING ALTERNATIVE. Dreams and Ideas are a dime a dozen; show me something that works and is a better deal - everything else is just noise . . . . . . .

No worries man. I understand your point. I don't want anything for free. I'm a happy UAD2 user. If they never go native (which is totally possible), I won't be losing any sleep over it.

[sach]

I just recently had to weigh up the worth of buying a new UAD with my new PC. At one stage I was going to get a mid level CPU and a quad. After looking at the value of the UAD's ( I've had a single uad-1 for years) Ive decided to spend my money on a i7 processor and a Duo instead. A friend giving me the waves versions of a few UAD plugs I was planning to purchase did sway the decision.

[cgar]

Yes the native processing power of today's latest Intel Core i7 is just so massive it really makes one wonder...

[creaturestudios]

I just recently had to weigh up the worth of buying a new UAD with my new PC. At one stage I was going to get a mid level CPU and a quad. After looking at the value of the UAD's ( I've had a single uad-1 for years) Ive decided to spend my money on a i7 processor and a Duo instead. A friend giving me the waves versions of a few UAD plugs I was planning to purchase did sway the decision.

How are you finding the I7? Years ago when everyone had P4's there were alot of problems with HyperThreading so most musicians/producers etc ended up disabling it! I was very tempted by an I7 before my recent rebuild but decided to stick with S775 and got a Q9550 cos i have had no trouble with them. The thought of 8 cores.................

[RDMS]

Ok, I just installed my first ever UAD card...
BRILLIANT !!!!!!
I run a successfull independant studio in Adelaide, Australia. That means that whilst I spend relatively large sums of money every year on equipment, ultimately it has to be justified.
I still have to make choices as to where that money is going to be most effectively placed in order to improve my sound, as well as workflow improvements and stability.

As stated, this is my first UAD, so "Fanboy" can't be applied can it?

What did I install?................ A duo flexi.

How can I mix with just that?................... By only using what I need to do the job. I have many expensive plugins from other companies as well.

Do I think it's overpriced?.........................Not at all. The Massive Passive and Fatso ate up my $500 voucher, so for $1500 Au$ I get access to 2 emulations of VERY expensive hardware.

Should UAD go native?............................... Not my call, I was happy enough with overall pricing and accept that this is their product. I run an i7 fully loaded so look upon the card as merely a piece of UA hardware that I can add studio value to at any time through further plugin purchases.

All rather long winded I know but as it's my first post I thought i'd clock up some keystrokes.

[NEWRIGEL]

i would squarely blame lack of competition. as soon as UA stop winning all these TEC awards etc for having the best plugins and as soon as all these name companies stop signing on to have ua do their plugins i bet youll see prices drop.

Competition is good but then... everything starts becoming the same. No singularity. If there was anyone who would or could compete... wouldn't we have seen it by now? This isn't an iPhone.